|
Post by vandyvan on Mar 6, 2014 8:47:20 GMT -6
Starting to wonder what effect this long winter is going to have on next seasons hunting. Lake Erie is littered with the corpses of dead divers. Here in WI Lake Michigan is 90% ice covered and the divers are having a bad time. The humane society that typically gets 3 or 4 divers in a year has had over 40 ducks brought in. The other day a woman found a red breasted merganser on a street in Mequon. The areas that are open are too deep for the birds to feed and many are dying of starvation.
When the dabblers start heading north will they be able to find open water and other areas to feed and rest, or will everything be covered with ice/snow? And what will the nesting areas look like when they arrive. What about flooding from the melting snow? What kind of effect will that have?
Anyone have any ideas about what this harsh winter will mean to ducks in our flyway? Is there a wildlife biologist in the house?
|
|
|
Post by koonce on Mar 6, 2014 10:10:27 GMT -6
Probably nothing. Reason I say that is we have apparently had great hatches and higher than usual numbers of the past few season yet here in WI many of us haven't notice the "great" increase. Spoke with people in Canada who said they have never seen so many birds(2013 season), well they sure didn't stop here.
If the ducks fly up here and hit ice they will more than likely back track to where they can survive. As far as breeding, only time will tell if it warms up quick enough otherwise we may have a late hatch. I don't see the melting snow floods causing much problems. Where I have seen floods wipe out hatches are the spring rain floods. When the birds fly up and encounter the snow melt floods they will nest where they can, its the floods that happen after nesting that have the biggest impact. If a bird bases its nesting site around the snow flood the waters could recede leaving it more vulnerable to predation, but they still have a better chance than if on top of the snow melt they get heavy spring rains causing the waters to rise and take out the nest.
There has also been some "positive" talk of the ice on the great lakes an other regions as they have apparently been down in water levels. Talk is when all this melts it will help replenish the levels which may also leed to having better water conditions in marshes around those areas.
That's my backyard opinion. I bet where I hunt I will not see a decline in how the hunting is.
As for a biologist on this board, this place has died out fast from when it started. Aside from the very few of us that post.
|
|
|
Post by vandyvan on Mar 6, 2014 10:34:42 GMT -6
You're probably right, I certainly hope so.
I suspect the ducks will be ok except for those divers that are dying off on the great lakes, they are having a rough time. If anything migrations may stall a bit but hopefully nesting and the hatch will be fine. Any major impact would probably not be felt right away anyhow. It may result in a slightly down year in the future, but I tend to agree that we can pretty much expect next season to be similar to this past one. I'm hoping that the banding project at Grand River Marsh takes place this year which would be a good indication.
If anything it's probably the deer, turkey and even fish that will suffer the most in the short term. But my mind is always on those ducks! Only 206 days +/- until the opener!!
|
|
|
Post by koonce on Mar 6, 2014 14:18:27 GMT -6
The divers that are died on the lakes and the ones that will continue to loose there lives on there may not even come close to the blue bills and redhead we loose each year in the spring to disease. Every spring our shore lines have dead divers all over them. Its very sad to see but still has not impacted the species as a whole, well hasn't really changed out limits at least and we still see plenty of those species.
Also look at the snows migration, there are doing jus fine following the snow line up as usual. May not directly correlate to the ducks migration but if they are doing fine it may be safe to assume others shouldn't have too much of an issue returning to the north to breed.
|
|
dkmf
Full Member
Posts: 235
|
Post by dkmf on Mar 9, 2014 21:45:11 GMT -6
I don't think we will notice any differences from this harsh winter. The temps will rise and I think the broods will all be on schedule with way more places to nest than before due to the amount of snow we have.
|
|
|
Post by vandyvan on Mar 12, 2014 8:14:38 GMT -6
Would be nice if the melting snow and rising water level actually lead to a better hatch and more places for the birds to feed and rest. If we have a wet spring, drought free summer ,and the weather cooperates with the season dates it could be a banner year.
The freezing on lake Michigan has made for some great diver duck watching along the lake front here in Milwaukee. They are concentrated in whatever open water they can find. Things are really starting t open up now though. A few weeks ago Gillespie was fishing in the harbor at Port Washington on his TV show and I saw flock after of flock of ducks flying by in the background.
|
|
|
Post by Tanner Wildes on Mar 12, 2014 8:30:37 GMT -6
|
|
|
Post by vandyvan on Mar 12, 2014 9:57:18 GMT -6
Yeah it's been really tough on the divers who typically stay up here. The humane society/wildlife rehab society in Milw typically gets a few divers in each winter. This year they have had well over 50. Someone just brought in another red breasted merganser that was found on a sidewalk today. They have a small flock of bluebills and a bunch of oter birds in there right now. In fact they are begging for food donations for the ducks.They are going through 25lb blocks of frozen smelt and canned clams left and right.
|
|
|
Post by jtg1551 on Mar 12, 2014 16:33:06 GMT -6
Is the a link for donations? Wouldn't mind helping out, for a good cause.
|
|
|
Post by Tanner Wildes on Mar 12, 2014 19:12:32 GMT -6
It's an article from Delta Waterfowl about this winter and its affect on waterfowl. You can donate to Delta Waterfowl though. Personally they are one of my favorite waterfowl organizations.
Tanner
|
|
|
Post by vandyvan on Mar 13, 2014 7:36:03 GMT -6
Hey jtg, yes you can donate! I made donation to the ā€ˇWildlife Rehabilitation Center at Wisconsin Humane Society and I am going to drop off some food (canned clams and shrimp) this weekend. I also reached out to Bobs Bait here in Milwaukee to see if they would donate, or cut me a little deal on some minnows, but I haven't heard back. It's kind of a long shot. You can donate to the Wildlife Rehab Center here; choose Wildlife Rehab to designate the money goes there. There are also links to some more news stories on the site. wihumane.org/news/wild-ducks-recovering-from-arctic-coldThink of it as an offering to the "Duck Gods" who in turn will bless you with safe hunting and many, many, ducks hovering over your dekes this fall.
|
|
|
Post by vandyvan on Mar 13, 2014 9:23:43 GMT -6
A couple of pics I snapped from the Lake Michigan shoreline. Click to see larger size. Attachments:
|
|
|
Post by vandyvan on Mar 13, 2014 9:25:01 GMT -6
And one more. Attachments:
|
|